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"Influence is wrong"

In this thread, I am reacting against the theory that "influence" is evil when it comes from another country, or another civilisation... A theory I hear a lot and that I feel is very dangerous.A lot...

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Hi, Fishbat (nice name :) ). Can you explain this "Andalusian Rennaissance" in more depth? I'm afraid I'm ignorant of what you are referring to.

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Renaissance was perhaps the wrong word; the allusion was to a period between the 8th and 13th centuries during the Moorish rule of parts of Spain, during which great Muslim and interreligious...

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Yes... In Europe, let's go south of, let's say, Paris and "occidental" judeo-christian culture should be imo renamed "mediteranean" culture... a judeo-christian- north african commercial culture. I'm...

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Illustration by image:The interior of the Cordoue "cathedral", in Spain, which was a mosquee before, of course...classes.bnf.fr/idrisi/grand/0_20.htmLike... yeah.... I think we can safely call that...

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Fishbat, be sure to introduce yourself :)

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Guy Gavriel Kay does a spectacular job of bringing across the tone -- the soul -- of that era in The Lions of Al-Rassan. (Some might recognise his name from among the Tolkein editors.) In The...

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Those uchronias (uchronies?) are fascinating. Completely disgressing, I remember a very interesting cyberpunk book, at the time cyberpunk was all the rage, which took place in north africa in an...

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"When Gravity Fails" by George Alec Effinger who unfortunately died a few days ago.

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Yes! That.

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Quote: This makes Arabic something of a transition language between an attempt at a "frozen" lingua franca and a "living" one: Qur'anic Arabic serving almost as Latin among the educated class,...

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Greatly appreciated, Nebilah007 -- and glad you don't scare off easily.Extreme protectionism, then, as the beginnings of cultural extinction? It could also potentially be argued that determination to...

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Quote: Much depends on the wider social integration of the home environment: do children of Arabic families tend to see success as requiring leaving the home environment? They need to master the...

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But it would be different, being brought up by parents of two different cultural backgrounds. To begin with, such a marriage in itself has already preselected for those more comfortable with the...

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Quote: Yet I wonder whether determined stripping of all visible signs of religion, like the "melting pot", may not actually be an attempt to reinforce the existing dominant social structure,...

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Quote: consequently to this seperation of Church and State ...Curious that decrease in political sanction of religion seems so often to correlate exactly with a parallel rise in popular and political...

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Mmm we should ask Nebilah again for details.. private schools, which are very often religious, do exist of course. They are even very numerous... most of them are "weak catholic" ones... officially...

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I wore kippers for a while, but they went off. People: Do not wear kippers in the summer! I'm tellin' ya!

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I guess all cultures and all people really are isolationist. Even the ones that say they aren't. There's just some that are strong enough they're able to hang onto their own stuff as well and maybe...

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Yes, and that's exactly why, in my opinion, thou shalt be wary of religion... :)

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but it's not just religion in hte do you believe in God sense. lots of religions don't involve god. and there's tons of ideas taht're just as aggressive. Mammon's an idea that's just as aggressive....

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